Monday, November 9, 2026

 The political motive for a transfer: Boniface 8th and Clemens 5th

The historical tell didn’t justify the transfer t Avignon of the Church, the official motive is because the elected pope, Clemens 5th, wont transfer to Rome, and it is certainly the official motive, but why this pope choose the French instead Rome? Other pope, as the German popes Gregory 5th(996-999), Clemens 2th(1046-1047)Leone 9th(1049-1054), and every pope is dwelt in Rome, that was and is the capital of Catholicism, it would be as if a country was administrated not from the its capital, but form the capital of other country, it is impossible, instead for the Church it was possible, Arthur Scophenauer(1788-1860), said that: “The policy is the art of possible”; and in fact the transfer to Avignon from the Rome, was possible, but the principal question is, why? Simple for a motive that was essentially politic: the pleasure, today we can call poll, that during the 14th century there not were, but the people says and protest also, in fact during the year 1302 Philipp 4th, king of France, have to escape from a riot in Paris because the people had not the bread, hence evidently Philipp was aware that the people could also become violent, when the its need not were satisfy; therefore  the transfer to Rome of the new French pope, for Philipp was an occasion certainly very important for to allow that he was transfer to Rome, a strange country, instead he could reinforce his monarchy and his rule and the monarchy in France, through the presence of a French pope. This hypothesis is alone my personal think, because the study of history allows the political considerations, if the historical man sees the facts through the political look that is the become of history, and not alone a narration of events; and I want see and consider the political side of the questions, and in the transfer to Avignon is a political motive, the pleasure of the king from the French people, through the presence of pope in France would have reinforced the monarchical power, and this hypothesis stems from an elementary consideration, that is likewise historical, this is the French popes that dwelt in Rome, before Clemens 5th: Sylvester 2th(999-1003), Urban 2th(1088-1099) and Callisto 2th(1119-1124), and every French pope before than Clemens 5th, is died in Rome, why this last pope is died in France and he refused the transfer? Simple because the king Philipp 4th, has had need of a religious authority that guaranteed the power of monarchy, inasmuch Clements 5th was perfect for this duty, and the continuity of the election of French popes, because the major of Conclave was with French cardinals, because Clements and other French popes have elected the French cardinals, therefore the popes could be alone French; but it was necessary to Philipp and other successors for to use the power that the pope has had, this is the excommunication, and the consequently last of the power; who govern the papacy could govern the Europe, for this the papacy has located in Avignon for 72 years, because the power was also in the papacy, in fact after the Avignon nobody French pope has elected from the Conclaves, because the dread of new transfer was very great.

Alessandro Lusana      





            

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  The political motive for a transfer: Boniface 8 th and Clemens 5 th The historical tell didn’t justify the transfer t Avignon of the Ch...